Aircraft types - who knows best?

My job is to look after the database and one of the techniques I use is to surf, pick a type or operator and look at the results and see if there is anything wrong or amiss and so I ended up at FlyBe this morning so we have one listing for an Embraer 190 and lots for 195, so naturally I think that the 190 must be wrong... so I do a Google and get confused. So I then look at the first 195 G-FBEA

Airliners says its a 195, although strangely enough the construction number starts with 190...

PlanePictures says its a 195

AP says its a 195

and JetPhotos says its a 190.

Looking the reg up on G-INFO the ultimate source says its a 190.

http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detailnosummary&fullregmark=FBEA

So is this a case of the Emperors new clothes?

Where everyone would like to think that its a 195 because everyone thinks its a 195 or is it really a 190?

What it is, is a classic case of Rubbish in - Rubbish Out.

We tend to use each other to find out the aircraft types, we frequently cross reference against other sites to see what the type is and just one mistake can spread through the web like wild fire. It's easily done.

And what's the real difference between a 190 and a 195 you may ask?

Just 2m longer and 8 more seats and this is the reason why AP tries very hard to keep the trivia to a minimum and we don't go in for adding silly suffixes like B737-4Q4 or the like. One would be sore pushed to see the difference at an airport

Lets keep things simple.... but if you see something wrong on our database then use the correct the image function.

As a post script, those Embraer 175s are actually 170s.

This post has been edited by Wallace Shackleton on 10th April 2012 - 12:43

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Hi,

I just did a bit of window countig, first a KLM E190, which got 24 windows, than a LH E195 which got 29 windows, than the 4 FlyBE's which all got 29 windows, so I think the only way to see the diffrence between a 190 and 195 is count the windows!

Cheers!

Bradley

Real anorak stuff Bradley! :)

You have to do something on a free afternoon :)

Now, instead of counting sheep before sleep, count aircraft windows! ;)

E190/E195 Passenger Capacity = 114/122

Fuselage Length = 36.24m/38.65m

Range = 1,800 nm/1,400nm

Jim

The final arbiter as Bradley has suggested is 26 or 29 windows.I've done this a few times and been surprised by a) how may types are wrong and b) how ashamed I am of counting windows!

Airframes.org seems to be fairly spot on with their types, so I may just base my judgements on that.

This post has been edited by Wallace Shackleton on 11th April 2012 - 06:14

You could also count (from the cockpit) the first 10 windows, if the 11th window is the emergency exit=E190 otherwise=E195